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Intercepted phone calls point to more crimes against humanity
http://www.libya.tv/tapedcalls/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P2Cu1HiAWs
Posted 8/10/11
S= Mahmood Shamam, from the NTC:
Q= Questioner
Q: Are the calls genuine?
S: Yes, in fact so far we have more than 2000 calls.... calls between all government figures. The Freedom Fighters could get very advanced devices, phone tapping devices. The devices were smuggled into intelligence buildings and government buildings in Tripoli. Our Freedom Fighters could phone tap hundreds of hours of such calls. We will start broadcasting them on Libya Alahrar TV. We will listen to one call or more on a daily basis. (They are) very unequivocal and compelling calls, because of this advanced technology and logistics support. that we could get from our allies, and the courageous Freedom Fighters who could smuggle devices into Tripoli. They are using them from within Tripoli and on Tripoli's shores. So we can say that everything (that) Gaddafi and his government (says) is monitored by us.
Q: Yes Mr. Shamam, but does everybody believe that a Prime Minister like El Baghdadi will talk about such stuff on the phone?
S: You will listen to more serious stuff. He believes that their lines are safe - they should be, but the advanced technology that he used to use against us, we are now using to hack Gaddafi's system.
Q: Isn't this evidence that can be used against El Baghdadi at the International Criminal Court?
S: In fact there is a call that will be broadcast soon where Gaddafi is clearly requesting to assassinate one of NTC's high-ranking figures. This call was handed to the ICC as evidence, and #Albaghdadi will be added to the #ICC criminal list.
Q: What more is to be expected from this regime by moving dead bodies to places suspected as targets of NATO?
S: We want to prove to the whole world that all claims of civilian victims of NATO's bombardment, most of such claims, (we do not deny there were some), but there are clear and deliberate exaggerations, adn gathering of reporters to witness scenes prepared in advance. This is what we want to make clear to the world and International media, so they can make sure once again that what takes place in Tripoli are fabricated scenes to draw public attention to civilian victims. The only victims are the Libyan people by Gaddafi's brutal killng machines. The Libyan people are the only real victims.
Q: Mr. Shamam, what is your reply to the Gaddafi regime claims that 85 civilians were victims of NATO bombardment in Zlitan?
S: Maybe the victims were his son and his army general, but no civilian building was bombed. Gaddafi and his sons are the ones who hid in hospitals. If it was not because of (the need to) protect hospitals and hotels, Gaddafi would have been dead a long time ago, but Gaddafi is using human shields, so he's the one responsible for civilian deaths, responsible for all crimes against the Libyan people.
Q: What about Gaddafi's son Khamees, is he dead? The regime denies it, but the Freedom Fighters say he is dead, how do we (find out) for sure?
S: Since the regime denies it, we cannot be sure. So, Gaddafi's regime is requested to prove if he is dead or alive. We can't be sure, but Misurata Freedom Fighters confirmed that Khamees is dead. We for sure trust Misurata Freedom Fighters, but to prove the death of one of Gaddafi's family members is complicated. We will wait for the other side to reply to Khamees' reported death.
Q: But some Freedom Fighter leadership confirms that they have pictures.
S: If they have pictures, it will be good evidence. We trust that our Freedom Fighters in Misurata and Zlitan will provide us with the truth. We at Libya Al Ahrar TV will publish these pictures once they are available to us.
Q: Mr. Mahmoud Shamam, thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P2Cu1HiAWs
Posted 8/10/11
S= Mahmood Shamam, from the NTC:
Q= Questioner
Q: Are the calls genuine?
S: Yes, in fact so far we have more than 2000 calls.... calls between all government figures. The Freedom Fighters could get very advanced devices, phone tapping devices. The devices were smuggled into intelligence buildings and government buildings in Tripoli. Our Freedom Fighters could phone tap hundreds of hours of such calls. We will start broadcasting them on Libya Alahrar TV. We will listen to one call or more on a daily basis. (They are) very unequivocal and compelling calls, because of this advanced technology and logistics support. that we could get from our allies, and the courageous Freedom Fighters who could smuggle devices into Tripoli. They are using them from within Tripoli and on Tripoli's shores. So we can say that everything (that) Gaddafi and his government (says) is monitored by us.
Q: Yes Mr. Shamam, but does everybody believe that a Prime Minister like El Baghdadi will talk about such stuff on the phone?
S: You will listen to more serious stuff. He believes that their lines are safe - they should be, but the advanced technology that he used to use against us, we are now using to hack Gaddafi's system.
Q: Isn't this evidence that can be used against El Baghdadi at the International Criminal Court?
S: In fact there is a call that will be broadcast soon where Gaddafi is clearly requesting to assassinate one of NTC's high-ranking figures. This call was handed to the ICC as evidence, and #Albaghdadi will be added to the #ICC criminal list.
Q: What more is to be expected from this regime by moving dead bodies to places suspected as targets of NATO?
S: We want to prove to the whole world that all claims of civilian victims of NATO's bombardment, most of such claims, (we do not deny there were some), but there are clear and deliberate exaggerations, adn gathering of reporters to witness scenes prepared in advance. This is what we want to make clear to the world and International media, so they can make sure once again that what takes place in Tripoli are fabricated scenes to draw public attention to civilian victims. The only victims are the Libyan people by Gaddafi's brutal killng machines. The Libyan people are the only real victims.
Q: Mr. Shamam, what is your reply to the Gaddafi regime claims that 85 civilians were victims of NATO bombardment in Zlitan?
S: Maybe the victims were his son and his army general, but no civilian building was bombed. Gaddafi and his sons are the ones who hid in hospitals. If it was not because of (the need to) protect hospitals and hotels, Gaddafi would have been dead a long time ago, but Gaddafi is using human shields, so he's the one responsible for civilian deaths, responsible for all crimes against the Libyan people.
Q: What about Gaddafi's son Khamees, is he dead? The regime denies it, but the Freedom Fighters say he is dead, how do we (find out) for sure?
S: Since the regime denies it, we cannot be sure. So, Gaddafi's regime is requested to prove if he is dead or alive. We can't be sure, but Misurata Freedom Fighters confirmed that Khamees is dead. We for sure trust Misurata Freedom Fighters, but to prove the death of one of Gaddafi's family members is complicated. We will wait for the other side to reply to Khamees' reported death.
Q: But some Freedom Fighter leadership confirms that they have pictures.
S: If they have pictures, it will be good evidence. We trust that our Freedom Fighters in Misurata and Zlitan will provide us with the truth. We at Libya Al Ahrar TV will publish these pictures once they are available to us.
Q: Mr. Mahmoud Shamam, thank you.
Libyan Prime Minister al-Baghdadi's call to pose dead children for propaganda
Translation of live phone call, posted 8/9/11
Alleged conversation between Libyan Prime Minister al-Baghdadi Ali al-Mahmudi and an unknown caller, requesting that children who died in hospitals be taken to an unnamed site for filming, as if they died there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV7HGNJ_YSs
The players:
B = Prime Minister al-Bagdhadi
C = Caller
Musa Ibrahim: spokesman of Gaddafi goverment
Abd-Elhameed (unknown)
B: listen Mohamed
C: Yes
B: listen, go now and take three dead children from hospitals. Take them to that place, you already know, ok.
C: ok
B: and tell Musa to film them, by yourself
C: What?
B: follow-up this with yourself
C: OK, I will follow-up with this in person
B: ok, but quickly
C: OK, I will follow-up
B: Take them from that "hospital" und bring them back there "hospital".
C: ok
B: to film them and take them back. OK.
C: ok
B: Quickly, quickly, quickly.
C: Musa... Musa Ibrahim
B: They will come later, once you get the stuff there.
B: take them quickly.
B: If Abd-Elhameed has children that will be fine.
B: Is that clear?
C: Ok, I will speak to Abd-Elhameed
B: Check with Abd-Elhameed if he has any "dead children".
C: ok
end of call
Al-Baghdadi talking about killing Mahmoud Jibril of the NTC:
Al-Baghdadi in another hacked phone call with Ahmed Ramadan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZdrH2lR5hY
Posted 8/10/11
"He is going everywhere, whatever we go he is there. He needs his head chopped off, we must chop his head off."
This was the 3rd recording to Gaddafi Prime Minister #Albaghadadi wanting to kill NTC member #Mahmoud #Jibril (via @dovenews)
Additional Paraphrase:
He emphasized that they missed the opportunity - as they did not know Jibril was in Benghazi yesterday (in relation to the phone call).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZdrH2lR5hY
Posted 8/10/11
"He is going everywhere, whatever we go he is there. He needs his head chopped off, we must chop his head off."
This was the 3rd recording to Gaddafi Prime Minister #Albaghadadi wanting to kill NTC member #Mahmoud #Jibril (via @dovenews)
Additional Paraphrase:
He emphasized that they missed the opportunity - as they did not know Jibril was in Benghazi yesterday (in relation to the phone call).
El Baghdadi denies movement towards Benghazi in March, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAS3An3u3Bo
In this call El Baghdadi is talking about denying some reports about Gaddafi troops that are already advancing towards Benghazi,fabricating media reports and taking advantage of such reports politically . Translation to English is in the subtitles.
Another Phone Call between Gaddafi aids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPhP1XPAklc
Posted 7/31/11
This conversation is a phone call between Gaddafi's aids... where Ali Keylani asked them to submit their weapons - and he was not happy with it - and expressed their dissatisfaction and doubts about the outcome of the war.
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(Other Selected Translations are available here)
(Other Selected Translations are available here)